Down market hits one-year mark with no clear bottom
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By DAVE CARPENTER
AP Business Writer
| Sunday, October 12, 2008 | (1 comment(s))

CHICAGO (AP) -- The bear market that is ravaging investor portfolios is now one of the worst in modern U.S. history and has wiped out more than $7 trillion in shareholder value, with no bottom clearly in sight.

When it stops and how far it drops, no one can predict with any accuracy -- a painful uncertainty underscored by Wall Street's giddy mood at the moment the steep descent began.

A year ago Thursday, Wall Street was celebrating the fifth anniversary of a bull market that had created $10 trillion in shareholder wealth since 2002. The Dow Jones industrial average and the Standard & Poor's 500 index hit all-time highs on Oct. 9, 2007.

A headline in USA Today captured the prevailing sentiment: "Market's run could keep going for a while."

In fact, the party was over. The subprime mortgage problem that was laid bare by a decline in home values developed into a much broader credit crisis that toppled giant banks and financial institutions.

Panicked investors have been fleeing from stocks. The S&P is down 37 percent from its peak of 1,565 a year ago, closing at 985 on Wednesday, and the Dow has tumbled 35 percent from 14,164 to 9,256.

Most experts don't see a recovery until there's greater stability in the housing market, banks are lending freely and employment improves.

Unlike other periods that saw precipitous drops, this one is rooted in foundering credit markets. That makes predictions more difficult than if the plunge were based on company profits or stocks alone.

"When you have an environment like this where the crisis is so deeply rooted from the credit standpoint, it adds an extra layer of ambiguity and ultimately of uncertainty," said Mark Freeman, portfolio manager for Westwood Holdings Group Inc. "That is what the markets are struggling with."

No turnaround is seen before 2009 or later. And there is a wide divergence of opinion on the future of this bear market, which feels unlike any other because of the $700 billion federal bailout and the collapse of investment banks.

Even with the Federal Reserve and other major central banks around the world slashing interest rates Wednesday, experts were hesitant to call a bottom.

"Technical indicators tell us that we're overdue for at least a short-term bounce," said Liz Ann Sonders, chief investment strategist for San Francisco-based brokerage Charles Schwab Corp. "That doesn't tell us that the bear market is necessarily over."

This bear market -- a term often defined as a prolonged drop in stock prices of 20 percent or more -- already is harsher than most of the 10 bear markets since the 1930s. Those markets have lasted an average of about 16 months from peak to trough, with average stock losses of 31 percent, based on S&P data.

Since the record 83 percent plunge in 1929-32, the current market is exceeded only by the drops of 49 percent in 2000-02 during the tech stock implosion and 48 percent in 1973-74 during a recession and energy crisis.

Since the record 83 percent plunge in 1929-32, the current market is exceeded only by the drops of 49 percent in 2000-02 during the tech stock implosion and 48 percent in 1973-74 during a recession and energy crisis.

The magnitude of this decline is close to that of the dot-com collapse earlier this decade, but this time, it's not just retirement accounts and stock portfolios that are being hurt. Increasingly, the availability of loans and credit is drying up, too.

Stormy Monday: Most market selling occurs Mondays

By DAVE CARPENTER

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Stormy Monday: Most market selling occurs Mondays
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By DAVE CARPENTER
AP Business Writer
CHICAGO (AP) -- Call it Red Monday.
Investors aren't imagining things if they think Mondays have been particularly ugly this year. That's the day the stock market has racked up the bulk of its losses.
According to data compiled by Standard & Poor's, through Tuesday's close, the S&P 500 has lost 26.2 percent in value on Mondays since the market peak of last Oct. 9 -- by far the worst of any day of the week. All told the S&P dropped 36 percent during that period.
Monday has historically been the worst market day but not as dramatically as this, Howard Silverblatt, S&P senior index analyst, said Wednesday. It's the only day of the week to have averaged a loss, albeit a slight one, based on records dating back to 1928.
"Mondays are feared mostly because there is nothing you can do" to get out of a stock if concerns arise over the weekend, he said.
Over the recent bear market and the last month in particular, Silverblatt noted, there have been many instances of market-moving weekend events, from bailout talks to high-level Treasury meetings to international developments.
"Investors get very concerned," he said, and come to the market Monday morning in a selling mood.
Friday has been the second-worst day in the last 52 weeks, registering losses of 7.9 percent, while the decline was 6.8 percent on Wednesday. The S&P actually gained 7.6 percent on Tuesdays and 1.9 percent on Thursdays during the 52-week period.
Totals don't reflect Wednesday's market decline. What's more, the daily numbers don't add up to the S&P's total 36 percent drop because of compounding in the daily changes, Silverblatt said.

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knucklehead wrote on Oct 12, 2008 9:38 AM:

" Every republican listens to the financial "experts" tell them no regulation is needed. The "Hand of the market" is all the regulation they need. Any interference is "socialism." Now, they are welcoming the "socialism" of government intervention. Oh how rapidly the dance changes.

Yes, oh might capitalist, swallow greedily your trillion dollars of "socialism." Never give a thought to the millions of low-wage taxpayers giving so much so you may survive the aftermath of yet another of your binges.

It is truly sad that I drive a 15 year old beather and live in a hovel. It's even worse that I have to bail you out.

Sad, sad, sad. "

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