Obama's election doesn't bode well for court, abortion
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Adding to Susan Doria's Nov. 6 comments on the ramifications of abortion, including infanticide, additional statistics and future effects are as follows:

* Since the Supreme Court legalized abortion in 1973, nearly 50 million unborn children have been murdered.

* Supreme Court Justice Stevens is 88 and is expected to be replaced during the first term of President Obama.

* Obama's clear position on abortion will directly result in the selection of a liberal judge thus retaining the 5-4 imbalance of the court favoring abortion.

* The Supreme Court will continue with Roe v. Wade as the law of the land for perhaps another 35 years with other justices replaced during Obama's tenure of eight years.

* The impact of Obama will add possibly another 50 million unborn children murdered in the next 35 years with the expected liberal Supreme Court.

To quote Mother Teresa: "America needs no words from me to see how your decision in Roe v. Wade has deformed a great nation."

Paul Burns, Schererville

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abortion isnt murder morons wrote on Nov 18, 2008 2:30 PM:

" the embryo doesn't have a heart beat the first 29 or so days in the womb. you can't take a life from something that doesn't have a life to begin with.

educate yourselves. "

Personally Pro-Life Politically Pro-Choice wrote on Nov 18, 2008 2:07 PM:

" As a father, I find abortive acts deplorable. As a Christian man, I believe terminating an unwanted pregnancy is sinful. Does that mean the government must legislate any and everything it can? The government's role is to protect our inalienable rights, maintain justice and provide (in as much as it's possible) a peaceful existence.

The pro-choice stance is so often misunderstood and misrepresented by the pro-life contingent. Most pro-choicers find a terminated pregnancy to be a sad thing. We don't celebrate abortion. It is a very troubling and complex issue.

It's easy to say that murder is murder. If it were that simple, this wouldn't be an issue.It's a question of constitutional rights. At what point in gestation does a fetus get rights? Conception? Heartbeat? At what point do those rights overtake the rights of the mother growing the child? Is it a good idea to give the government power over women's bodily choices? Slippery slope.

I don't claim to have the answers. I just ask that prolifers try understanding the opposing viewpoint more. Respect our views as we respectyours. "

to Joe Average wrote on Nov 18, 2008 1:59 PM:

" Joe Average, thank you, you have unmasked the profit-hungry Planned Parenthood for what they are.

If they were just out to "help women" (LOL) they would donate their profits to adoption agencies. They might even have adoption agencies right in their offices to give women a real choice.

No, the only option Planned Parenthood gives is: abortion today or next Thursday? MasterCard or Visa? (or Medicare?) "

Joe Average wrote on Nov 18, 2008 1:42 PM:

" Okay, you want blood? Fine. But you can't profit from it. There.
You can charge for abortions, but you have to turn the money over to adoption agencies.
The sale off the fetal tissue to cosmetic companies is banned.
No profit from abortion. Period.

There, I bet Planned Parenthood wouldn't be so benevolent now would they?
I bet the people and organizations that buy and sell fetal tissue would freak and tell us how research cannot be done and shampoo and mascara products will be made in back alleys, bla, bla.
I bet the "doctors" (former nazi's) that previously profited from the carnage would stop "offering their services to those unfortunate women who excercise their constitutional "choice" bla bla.
Of course if we stopped abortion and realized that guns don't cause crime, then what will we argue about?
Probably some other issues we will never solve (like how Americans seem to think that (reproduction) is a team sport - or spectator sport in some cases). "

to planned parenthood wrote on Nov 18, 2008 1:39 PM:

" since when is killing someone OK as long as it is "done properly"?

Planned parenthood does not give all the options. They won't show a woman an ultrasound of her baby, or let her listen to the baby's heartbeat, because they don't want the mother to understand that it's a real baby. No abortion, no profit for Planned Parenthood. Do you also believe that used car salesmen try to give buyers all "options" of maybe taking the train to work or the bus?

Yes I do blame the workers in Planned Parenthood as much as I blamed the guards in the Nazi prison camps. They are just "following orders" and doing their jobs. "

to Kathy wrote on Nov 18, 2008 1:35 PM:

" Kathy said "If you don't agree with abortion don't have one. It's that simple."

Then some other pro-abortion fanatic said "we need to leave the judging up to God!" as if that made any sense.

Kathy, I don't agree with a lot of crimes, like bank robbery and child abuse. For me anyway, "just not doing it myself" isn't enough. I think we should have laws to punish those who kill, rob banks or abuse children.

And "we need to leave the judging up to God"? Really? So if we are at the grocery store and a masked man comes in and shoots the checkout person, we need to let him go and just "leave the judging up to God!"?

Try to think first before posting non-nonsensical statements. Thank you. "

re to Kathy wrote on Nov 18, 2008 1:16 PM:

" I don't agree with murder, so I won't commit one. I don't agree with drinking and driving, so I won't do it. I don't believe in abortion so I won't have one (oops covered that in murder). It isn't that simple that just not doing things will solve problems. Is it that simple that whatever we don't agree with we just don't do and everything else will be just fine? The rest of the country will just fall in line and do as I do? I never realized I had that much control and influence over others! "

planned parenthood wrote on Nov 18, 2008 1:02 PM:

" fyi, if an abortion is done properly anywhere and the women are given all the info, it's done at planned parenthood. they talk to the woman about all of their options... giving birth, adoption, abortion and what to expect in all cases. don't blame those who do the abortions or work in those offices. i know people who work there and wouldn't have one, but they don't judge others and force their opinions on them to do what they would. "

not your responsibilty wrote on Nov 18, 2008 12:57 PM:

" any child that is born that isn't yours is not your responsibility, so why do you think you have to right to make it your responsibility to stop abortions? it's not up to you or anyone else. regardless if it's legal or not, people will still get abortions and then we'll find more abandoned babies and women who are sick or died from improper procedures and unclean environment. now don't tell me they deserve that for trying to abort their child. if you're pro-life, then shame on you for saying a woman deserves to die also. "

re Hansel wrote on Nov 18, 2008 12:48 PM:

" Do you understand how oral contraceptives work? They prevent an egg from being released. No egg, nothing to fertilize, hence, no embryo. What do you propose people who don't want to have kids or who don't have the means to provide for kids should so they don't have children? Yes, abstinence is there but what about married couples who are using contraception? "

to Darien wrote on Nov 18, 2008 12:48 PM:

" Yes, we are PRO LIFE. Yes, we are foster parents, who YES has adopted 4 children in addition to the 3 of our own that we have biologically. Never took a cent from anyone to raise them, even from the Foster System. I donated every penny right back to a woman's shelter. Now it's my turn to ask, Darien, where is YOUR moral fiber? "

Stanley wrote on Nov 18, 2008 12:40 PM:

" Pt 2. And rape? Are you kidding me? What is this ancient Europe? Are hordes of Maniacal Mongols roving America sacking villages and raping the virgins?! Those women lining up to exercise their “choice” have not been raped nor are their lives in danger so stop using rare situations, which represents less than 1% of the total, to justify the remaining 99%.

I would like to close, for now, with this. Why are ultrasound images not offered to women seeking abortions? Why have brainwashed women described unborn children as blood clots? I have never heard of a blood clot with arms legs and a heartbeat. These women do not know what they are doing. They are being kept ignorant. Just tell the seekers of “family planning” services the truth. All women should be required to understand the stages of development of their child before a “procedure” can be performed. I think this would drastically reduce the number of abortions. "

Stanley wrote on Nov 18, 2008 12:40 PM:

" PT.1 They ask us if we are willing to adopt these children or provide foster homes. They ask if we support the death penalty. They present rape as if it represents the majority of abortions. The same talking points, over, and over, and over again. Your arguments are so off.

For the adoption and foster home thing. It should be my right to stop feeding my kids and if you are not willing to feed them you have no right to say anything to me about it. Sound ridiculous? It is the same thing as telling a lifer if they are not willing to adopt your poor decisions they have no right to speak up about you making an even worse decision.

As for the death penalty. I personally do not support it but I do not see a conflict of interest for those who are anti-abortion yet DO support the death penalty. How can you compare the death of an innocent child to the death of a convicted criminal? This is how I put it. Everyone should have a chance to screw up...continued "

To Kathy wrote on Nov 18, 2008 12:34 PM:

" Thank you! I didn't realize it was that simple. Because I have not and will not have an abortion, 50 million babies will survive abortion and have the right to life. Thanks for breaking that down for me. "

Kev wrote on Nov 18, 2008 12:21 PM:

" ban all kinds of contraceptives.
every intercourse(between a man & woman of course) should result in a baby!! "

leave the judging up to Him wrote on Nov 18, 2008 11:35 AM:

" to kathy, thank you. if you don't want one and don't believe in it, then don't get one. but it's not the place of humans to tell others what to do. if you believe in the bible, then let God judge that person on that day. i wouldn't get an abortion. i'm actually expecting my first in a few months, but i'm not going to say anything to anyone who has had one. i believe there are several reason for abortions. what i don't believe in is using abortion as birth control. learn how to take the pills properly, get an IUD, use condoms, use foams, use the morning after pill, but every time you get pregnant, you shouldn't be getting an abortion and racking up 4 or more in your life. that's just wrong. they need to be responsible and at some point they need to be told they can't get anymore. that won't happen, but i wouldn't necessarily say to ban abortions all together. "

Kathy wrote on Nov 18, 2008 10:17 AM:

" If you don't agree with abortion don't have one. It's that simple. "

Re Darien wrote on Nov 18, 2008 9:39 AM:

" Claiming that abortion is between the woman and God makes no more sense than saying slavery is between the master and God. Or that homicide is between the murderer and God. We prosecute these crimes as injustices against humanity and abortion fits the bill. "

Hansel confused wrote on Nov 18, 2008 9:27 AM:

" Hansel confuses an accident like "falling on a treadmill", with the intentional dismembering of one's child.

I guess Hansel would also say that a mother killing her child in her bed at night with a sharp knife, would be equivalent to accidentally killing the child in an auto accident?

Come on, Hansel, THINK! "

Darien wrote on Nov 18, 2008 8:25 AM:

" " To all of you pro-lifers...are you foster parents? Have you adopted children? Most of you have not. You all preach pro life but then you don't step up to the plate and up take care of those unwanted babies that have been born."

I said this earlier, but absolutely no response from the pro-lifers.
While I believe abortion is a sin, it is between the woman and God. "

Schmiggy is confused wrote on Nov 18, 2008 7:44 AM:

" Schmiggy says "1f you are pro-anything that ends in death, than you cannot say that you are pro-life."

Yes, true. Armed home invasion would end in the death of my children. Therefore I am pro-life to stop the bad guy with a gun before he kills.

Schmiggy, you think you are "pro-life" to sit by passively while you and your family are murdered?

Schmiggy says "nobody really WANTS to see another being die". I'm not so sure about that. NARAL and Planned Parenthood want more to die because they make a profit on each abortion.

Guns don't kill. People who enter my house to kill might be killed.

War has liberated millions around the world, has stopped Hitler, and is stopping al qaeda and has stopped Saddam Hussien from using any more WMD on his own people or against Americans.

Both boys and girl babies are killed from abortions. So it is not specific to one gender.

Your argument that we should kill more babies because some of them might become gay is sick. Homosexual behavior is an abomination, but that doesn't give you the right to kill babies "

Hansel wrote on Nov 18, 2008 12:51 AM:

" Personally, I feel that pregnant women who do something careless, falling on a treadmill perhaps, that results in the death of a fetus should be charged with involuntary manslaughter. Oh, and women who use oral contraceptives should probably have a funeral once a month for the embryo that avoids uterine implantation and dies. That makes sense to me. "

Pro-lifer wrote on Nov 17, 2008 9:46 PM:

" Re Kat
I think people who cannot obey the law should have no rights to own guns. But I believe law abiding citizens should have the right to own guns and to use guns for the enjoyment of target shooting, for hunting, and for protection.
I am not pro-war. But I know that there are people who do not see eye to eye who think that extermination or dominion of entire populations is the only answer, and sometimes declaring war is the only way to protect those people.
No, I am not a proponent of the death penalty. I think it is an abomination that even one innocent person or one repentant soul has been put to death. The death penalty was more acceptable to me when there was no guarantee that a prisoner could not escape and reoffend, but we are now completely capable of housing a prisoner until his or her natural death, so the death penalty is unnecessary.
I think that every implanted embryo has the right to life and that right to life supercedes a women's right to her own body.
Thanks for asking! "

to Kat wrote on Nov 17, 2008 9:46 PM:

" Kat, "YES"? You mean "YES", you have a problem with a person protecting their own kids from someone trying to hurt them? What kind of a monster are you?

So you would call the police so they could properly wrap up the dead bodies and fill out the proper forms? Or would you defend your family on the spot and save their lives?

Or did you mean "YES" you have a problem with America defending itself against evil terrorists? So you would have just let Hitler kill all the Jews and take over the world? So you will just let radical Islamic terrorists like al quaeda kill us and take over the world? Or will you fight to defend freedom and safety? "

morality wrote on Nov 17, 2008 9:17 PM:

" The "church" has no right to tell woemen what to do when their own leaders can't seem to stop abusing the children that are brought into this world & into their churches. "

Schmiggy wrote on Nov 17, 2008 9:10 PM:

" 1f you are pro-anything that ends in death, than you cannot say that you are pro-life. You need to say you are anti-abortion, which most people would agree that they are - nobody really WANTS to see another being die. Guns kill innocent people. War kills innocent people. And have we not put people to death through the justice system who were later proven innocent?

Also, I am just wondering why any man should have any sort of a say in this matter t all since thye will NEVER find themselves in the position of being pregnant.

Additionally, I really wonder how "pro-life" peopple would feel if all those aborted babies had been born & were gay. Would you still say that it was god's will??? "

to Kat wrote on Nov 17, 2008 6:39 PM:

" YES... "

end of story wrote on Nov 17, 2008 6:34 PM:

" if you don't think abortion is murder, try explaining what it means to pull a baby out of it's mother (up to 9 months) by the legs and leave the head in, then proceed to cut the back of the babies neck to KILL it. too bad the selfish mother can't hear here baby crying in pain. check out partial birth abortion. if anyone can justify that you have no soul! "

to 50 MILLION wrote on Nov 17, 2008 5:49 PM:

" who died and made you God, able to determine which innocent babies live and die? "

to Kat wrote on Nov 17, 2008 5:49 PM:

" Excellent questions, Kat.

I am Pro-Life: it's immoral and against the constitution to kill innocent baby girls and boys in the womb. Their hearts are beating and they feel pain, and they did nothing.

Q: are you also Pro Gun?
Yes, I believe in the God-given right to self-defense. No crazy nut has the right to kill me and my family. If he tries, I will stop him with force. You have a problem with that, Kat?


Q: Pro War?
No I am not pro-war. But I am in favor of using force to stop evil nations and groups from killing innocent people. Have you ever heard of Hitler and the Holocaust? We stopped him with war. Have you ever heard of 9-11? 3000 innocent people killed, al quaeda plans to kill more. We are stopping them with war. Any questions?

Q: Pro Capital Punishment?
If a guy rapes small children and a mother, then tortures them and strangles them, and is caught red handed, tried and convicted beyond any doubt, and is sentenced to death, I am OK with that. Liberals want him released to do it to someone else. "

Kat wrote on Nov 17, 2008 4:15 PM:

" Just out of curiosity, for the people who consider themselves Pro-Life, are you also Pro Gun? Pro War? Pro Capital Punishment? "

harvey danger wrote on Nov 17, 2008 4:08 PM:

" been around the world and found that only stupid people are breeding... "

50 MILLION wrote on Nov 17, 2008 3:51 PM:

" 50 million babies to grow up to be 50 million selfish, lazy, fat americans "

true patriot wrote on Nov 17, 2008 3:24 PM:

" let your god sort it out then. they'll receive their eternal damnation in the end right? so who cares! how does it actually affect you, the individual? i'm sure it saddens you, i respect that, honestly i do. maybe i'm just callous, but i really don't care. i wouldn't do it, but that's me.
mean while, we're an overpopulated planet with nothing but idiots having kids that shouldn't be reproducing.
soilent green is people! "

To End Of End wrote on Nov 17, 2008 2:45 PM:

" We Are Interfering with God's Will When We As Humans Decide to Kill a Child, If That Child Had No Purpose and Was Not Meant to Be, the Mother Would Miscarry or Never Get Pregnant in the First Place, Women and Dr.'s are Taking it On Themselves to Play God....So In Short Yes...Yes we Are Doomed :) "

Stanley wrote on Nov 17, 2008 2:27 PM:

" "Abortion debate"? It is amazing that there is even a debate. Seriously folks. We are debating whether or not destroying a human being is good or bad? I have to give the propagandists credit. They have convinced the majority that this form of murder is ok. Simply amazing. "

ROOO wrote on Nov 17, 2008 2:21 PM:

" Interesting thing that Obama will not only undo what Bush did, but he will also undo what Clinton did. Clinton started getting people off of welfare; well guess what people--your increased income taxes (for all who are gainfully employed) will be used to generate the welfare machine again. But don't blame me...I voted for a REAL change. "

DannyH wrote on Nov 17, 2008 2:05 PM:

" Every person deserves protection and the right of life. It is clear that a child in the womb is a person and is therefore deserving of protection under the law. It is a basic truth of life that these are people that we are talking about and thus should be treated as such. It is the civil rights issue of our time, and every person's God given right to life should be protected. "

Lanie wrote on Nov 17, 2008 1:45 PM:

" It makes me sick that some of the PETA people who cry out for the inhumane treatment of animals are at the same time pro-choice. That is crazy!! As much as I am an animal lover, the unborn human it to be valued more.
You're choice is made before the conception. That is the main reason I could never vote for a democrat-they are all liberal! "

WHY wrote on Nov 17, 2008 12:57 PM:

" why is someone convicted of two accounts of murder if the mother and unborn child are killed and then a mother who has an abortion not convicted of anything??? "

Thoughts wrote on Nov 17, 2008 12:10 PM:

" I personally could not get an abortion, however I don't feel that I can make that choice for another woman.

I think the idea of better education and more availability of cheaper birth control would be a good step. Those of you who think abortion is used as birth control are wrong. People use it when there are birth defects with the child that would cause the child horrible pain or death soon after birth. They use it when they can't support another child, even after they have used birth control. It's used in cases of rape. There isn't just one reason for it. If you want it to end, you need to start changing the things that cause women to get abortions. Eliminate that, you can eliminate abortion. "

re to Mary wrote on Nov 17, 2008 12:10 PM:

" It is not the land of the free...since when am I free to kill another? Free to not pay taxes? Free to say anything I wish not matter how ignorant or hateful (hate speech)? Free to speed down the road? free to smoke weed? We are NOT free to do whatever we want...try again! "

to Mary wrote on Nov 17, 2008 11:42 AM:

" Mary, if America is the land of the free,
why do you think that gives you the freedom to kill an innocent baby girl or boy growing in the womb, who feels pain?

America guarantees our God given right to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. The first right is LIFE. Stop trying to take that away from innocent chidren.

And in Obama'a case, he also wants to take the right to life away from babies who are born alive, breathing outside the womb. Obama fought HARD against giving them medical care. See bornalivetruth.org for the details. "

And Also Seriously wrote on Nov 17, 2008 11:39 AM:

" And "Seriously" haha I am laughing as I write this.....Since when has a baby been considered a Private Part??? hahahahaha You "pro-choicers" are funny! "

Mary wrote on Nov 17, 2008 11:18 AM:

" America is the land of the free, and that includes choices about our bodies. Pro-choice is the only way to be. "

annie wrote on Nov 17, 2008 11:17 AM:

" Why be able to kill your unborn and not your teen? Maybe the mother of the teen can not deal with the teen, or it interferes with her life style, or maybe she can't afford the teen.
Why is murder just legal for unborns then? "

End of END wrote on Nov 17, 2008 10:59 AM:

" So, if it's murder and killing, how come it is legal, and will most certainly REMAIN legal for the forseeable future? Oh woe, we are all doomed for eternity because some people have decided that they know God's will better than others. Apparently it is not the "End of Story," no matter how may exclamation points you use. At what point do you think people will just start shouting HA HA HA in your face? Can't you see that your anger and obstinance gets you nowhere? Short-sighted, obtuse, self righteous, ignorant, bible-thumping, blah blah blah. Bottom line is you do not hold the magic wand on the issue just because you shout. "

Once wrote on Nov 17, 2008 10:58 AM:

" I personally do not agree with or support abortion. However, I realize that many disagree with me. How about this-You are allowed ONE abortion when you have that all your reproductive organs are also removed from your body so that you can not murder again- What's your pro-choice problem with that? "

Seriously wrote on Nov 17, 2008 10:54 AM:

" So what makes you pro-lifers think that what a person does with her body is any of your business? Wouldn't you be offended if I asked you a very personal question when it came to your private parts? So you're saying a woman deserves to go through hell for the next 9 months after a rape? "

Hey End wrote on Nov 17, 2008 10:21 AM:

" Well Said.... I Agree It Is Murder...Killing Is Killing..... END OF STORY!!!!! "

JH wrote on Nov 17, 2008 9:57 AM:

" To all of you pro-lifers...are you foster parents? Have you adopted children? Most of you have not. You all preach pro life but then you don't step up to the plate and up take care of those unwanted babies that have been born. Now imagine if R v W is overturned, an additional 30 million unwanted children on the street. The foster homes and children services can barely keep track of the children that are in the system now. "

To joel... wrote on Nov 17, 2008 9:46 AM:

" Good point! In fact it never changed under Nixon, Ford, Reagan or either Bush. "

Hey End wrote on Nov 17, 2008 9:40 AM:

" Just cuz you shout it out, that don't make your OPINION the "End of Story." A lot of people agree with you, but obviously a lot do not. It's people like you, who automatically just state your personal OPINION as FACT, that make it impossible to break the gridlock that has become increasingly prevelant in our society, government and homes. Anyone can type their OPINION in all-caps; that doesn't make it fact - just makes people indignant. "

SJT wrote on Nov 17, 2008 9:33 AM:

" Another great quote from Mother Teresa: "It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish." "

ScottFromCP wrote on Nov 17, 2008 9:30 AM:

" John McCain answered the question truthfully and quickly - "when does life begin? at the moment of conception". Obama said the answer to that question was "above his pay grade" - ha. Well, Mr President-elect, your pay grade will be awfully high come January 21st, so what is your answer now? If you couldn't answer it then, what will give you the right to appoint a pro-choice Judge?

Question: if Michelle Obama wanted to end her first pregnancy, would Barack have supported her? I think not.

Pro-choicers can say what they want, but abortion will ALWAYS be murder - period. "

headline wrote on Nov 17, 2008 8:22 AM:

" The title of this article is pretty one-sided, Obama's election does bode well for many on this subject. To each his own. "

reduce the demand wrote on Nov 17, 2008 8:14 AM:

" Outlawing abortions won't stop them from occurring. The fact that drugs are illegal doesn't stop people from using them. As long as there is a demand for something, people will pursue these practices. The only way to diminish the number of abortions is through education. There are many alternative ways to prevent unwanted pregnancies. "

end of story wrote on Nov 17, 2008 8:01 AM:

" ABORTION IS MURDER! END OF STORY! "

Just a thought wrote on Nov 16, 2008 9:06 PM:

" It is a mistake to believe the number of abortions would result in an equal number of unwanted live births if abortion were to be made illegal.
Many would-be abortions would be headed off by increased and more responsible use of other birth control methods in the absence of the abortion back-up plan. "

Nontheist wrote on Nov 16, 2008 9:04 PM:

" An indifferent god allows children to be abused and murdered. It doesn't care about little things like that. And burning witches and heretics at the stake is perfectly fine with it. Just don't have an abortion or you don't get the magic key to paradise. "

Think People wrote on Nov 16, 2008 6:02 PM:

" "nearly 50 million unborn children have been murdered."

Yeah? And I wonder how many of those "children" would have ended up as a child abuse statistic.

I truly hope that nobody here believes that the outlawing of abortion would result in an onslaught of adoptions to "loving homes." That's a naive fantasy at best, and complete ignorance at worst.

Think about how many children are abused now by parents and caretakers who don't want them now, even though they had the option of abortion - do you really think outlawing abortion would result in people suddenly giving up babies for adoption? I won't beat the "quality of life" dead horse, because I would hope that everyone here is smart enough to understand its importance.

Obama isn't out to promote abortion, that's an ignorant piece of rhetoric. He advocates education and pregnancy prevention. Abortion isn't a cakewalk, and if more women made smart choices about their bodies and lives, it would become nearly a non-issue. "

sigh wrote on Nov 16, 2008 5:51 PM:

" I cannot believe in this day and age, there are still people who are one-issue voters.

Um, in other news, the overturning of Roe vs. Wade only means that abortion laws are then up to the individual states, which many states have already done. It's not like an Obama presidency is going to result in billions of abortions. People hear "abortion" and start thumping bibles and hopping on high horses, with no regard for common sense. "

Oh geeezz wrote on Nov 16, 2008 3:21 PM:

" ADOPTION is a great thing! Why not put your child up for adoption if you can not take care of it? There are many people out there who would love to care for a child they can't have. "

Disgusted wrote on Nov 16, 2008 2:23 PM:

" How could any woman kill her own baby?! Especially after the first 3 months?! For me religion has nothing to do with it, it's just knowing right from wrong. I believe they call it morals. You can try to word it however you want "oh its not a life until its born". What?! Are you friggin kidding me?! There are babies born months premature all the time and live, but babies are being aborted all the way up to 9 months. How can anyone that does this live with themselves? What a sad scary world we live in... "

First things first wrote on Nov 16, 2008 10:07 AM:

" When you are faced with a thousand problems, the only way to solve any of them is to prioritize. We need to help the people already in this world first! We need to figure out a way to feed and provide shelter for all of the people already alive in this country today! Then, we can concentrate on making sure all children have a right to be brought into this world. Let's make this world worth living in FIRST before you say it's a good idea to bring more children into it. "

Church and State wrote on Nov 15, 2008 9:11 PM:

" Church and State are NOT separate. Have you looked at the writing on American money? In GOD we trust. When in Court, witnesses and jurors swear on a Bible, nothing else. Recite the Pledge of Alligiance lately? "ONE NATION UNDER GOD." No mail on Sundays or Christmas. Where was your polling location this election? Mine was held inside a Church. Interesting. We're quick to through out all the "Freedoms Of (fill in the blank, SPEECH, ABORTION)" but we forget that "Church" and "State" are closer than you realize.

I understand, the "Pro Choicers" are all about the idea that government should not dictate what a woman does to her body. It's not necessarily the act of the abortion they are "for"; but rather the right to do whatever they want with their bodies. I agree with the concept of keeping government out of dictating what procedures are allowed, but I recall a doctor in Michigan being arrested for assisted suicides. What is the difference between what he did and what a "pro choicer" does with regard to abortion? Same end result... "

Don Dodge wrote on Nov 15, 2008 6:33 PM:

" Mr. Obama will try his best to undo all the bad that bush has done to this country. He will reduce the highest deficit ever, end the war with a country that never attacked us and was never going to, stop letting the rich coprorations dictate policy, end this trickle down economic bull, (nothing trickles down, they keep it all for themselves) and fix this mess that bush and his partners in crime have bestowed upon us. "

Hahahahaha wrote on Nov 15, 2008 12:15 PM:

" Dear God...save me from your followers. That's the best one I read on here all day! "

Med Tech wrote on Nov 15, 2008 11:49 AM:

" Medical technology will soon reach a point where an embryo can be grown to maturity completely outside of the womb.

Question: when we reach that point in our science, should we harvest those aborted fetuses and grow them in the lab, regardless of the financial and social costs involved? Would the religious right object to using science to replace their god's method of creating life? Would it be ethical to bring a 'motherless' child into the world, solely for the purpose of preserving the life of the fetus?

Personally, I believe it would be wrong to preserve the life of the fetus in vitro. I also believe a woman should not be forced to give birth in vivo when an alternative solution is available to her. How could these two positions be reconciled?

Answer: they can not be reconciled. With few exceptions, abortion will always remain the preferred method of terminating a pregnancy. Get used to it! "

mother of 3 wrote on Nov 15, 2008 11:33 AM:

" Personally abortion isnt my choice BUT you have to think about some things first before youre so quick to judge others. Maybe a woman is pregnant and cant take care of herself let alone a child, or maybe a mother already has children that have health problems and doesn't want to see another one suffer. Why bring another child in this world to be on welfare, hungry, homeless, or very ill and put through surgeries and medications for its life. I believe that if you have good reasoning that it should be ok. BUT DEFINITELY NOT OK TO BE USED AS A FORM OF BIRTH CONTROL. As someone else said there are women that are on their 3rd or 4th abortion, not thats just wrong. And there are also women that DO NOT WANT CHILDREN and the doctors wont tie their tubes to prevent that and thats not fair to them. Its not fair to being a child into this world to suffer so i again believe that it is both the mother and fathers choice to do what they feel is right. "

purduedavie wrote on Nov 15, 2008 10:52 AM:

" People, are we forgetting that abortion is LEGAL. With Obama as President it will remain legal, please pro life zealots find something else to occupy your time. If a women decides to give up the baby she is breaking no law, people need to remember that. "

Tangent wrote on Nov 15, 2008 9:16 AM:

" I once owned a small rental property and rented a unit to a young woman who, after about three months, stopped paying rent. When I asked her about it she proudly proclaimed "I'm having a baby!" as if this wondrous act of God negated all other responsibilities. "That was your choice," I responded. "You still have to pay rent." She became very defensive and called me a "baby killer." But I never once mentioned abortion. And finally, where was the "Daddy?" He also had choices. My pooint is that, women and men all have choices, whether legal or not. Perhaps we need to take a step back and re-examine our American culture that has divided us so much on this issue. "

My body wrote on Nov 15, 2008 8:18 AM:

" My choice. How tired is that agrument? Using that argument, all drugs should be legal, and if I overdose, so what? Cigarettes smoking is on the verge of becoming illegal. Government already tells us what we can and can't do with our bodies, to some degree or another.

A child developing in the womb should have at least the same Rights as, say, a person renting an apartment. I mean, the child is not going to be in utero for ever, just a limited time. Why not let the child stay until his/her lease is up? "

Regular Joe wrote on Nov 15, 2008 6:46 AM:

" “i personally wouldn't choose abortion, but it's not place to tell others what to do.”

“ ‘Congress shall pass no law respecting an establishment of religion’ means no law forcing the belief held by SOME Christian denominations…”

Actually, we do both all the time. “Thou shall not kill” - seems that that has a religious basis. The movement to end slavery was led by Christians in the 19th century, both here and abroad.

Does that mean that since Christians believe that killing and slavery are wrong that all laws in the United States regarding the illegality of both practices should be stricken from the books?

We live in a culture where the only thing that’s important is what makes ME happy regardless of what it does to other people or to our society at large. Unfortunately such a culture doesn’t, can’t, give true happiness but only generates loneliness, isolation and the frenetic search for pleasure that, in the end, destroys happiness. "

joel wrote on Nov 15, 2008 1:58 AM:

" Eight years of Bush/Cheney did not change the abortion laws. Do the world a favor, DON'T MIX POLITICS AND RELIGION! "

Bob wrote on Nov 15, 2008 12:43 AM:

" I have read all your comments. Most of you understand. Life is better than death. What you all have missed is if 50 million children would have been born. Our Country would not have most of the problems we face. Taxes for one. Just think how many taxpayers were as some you put it "legally terminated"
Secondly, it shows how stupid law makers and politicians are. They just lost 50 million potential voters.
Immigration, if we had 50 million more legal americans guess what why come here when you have no job to come to. "

Whats next wrote on Nov 14, 2008 5:03 PM:

" We let our government tell us how many children we are allowed to have, just like China does? Where do we draw the line when it comes to having the government telling us what we can and can not do with our bodies? "

abortion will never go away wrote on Nov 14, 2008 4:51 PM:

" i personally wouldn't choose abortion, but it's not place to tell others what to do. if abortion is banned, think of the other ways that women and young girls will attempt to abort, which could result in their own death. we'll find more abandoned babies on the streets. planned parenthood is not a bad thing. they get donations specifically to use towards abortions. many women come in for their 2nd, 3rd, maybe even 4th abortion and they don't pay for it because it comes out of a fund. planned parenthood does not make money on this. they also receive donations to help with parenting and other needs for young girls an women. abortion is not the big money maker for them. not all planned parenthood clinics perform abortions and the ones that do, may only perform them a few times a week if that. "

Proud Mother wrote on Nov 14, 2008 3:52 PM:

" I just can't believe we are still debating over prolife or prochoice. Prochoice for whom? Certainly not the baby that is being aborted...it is a baby, you realize, and not "just a fetus".

To all the women that are mothers that support abortion, shame on you. You, of all people, should realize just how precious life is. "

Susan wrote on Nov 14, 2008 3:41 PM:

" Can there be anyone left in this country who does NOT know how to prevent an unwanted pregnancy? If we allow the murder of babies who are "an inconvenience," what group will we next find "inconvenient?" The elderly? Biker dudes with loud tail pipes? Politicians? Welfare families? If we fail to protect the rights of SOME of us, we fail to protect the rights for ANY of us. Will YOU be in the next group of "inconvenient" people? "

to re Its not pro life wrote on Nov 14, 2008 3:32 PM:

" Very well said, my friend. "

Rights Responsibility wrote on Nov 14, 2008 3:26 PM:

" I agree that one has the right to do whatever they want with THEIR BODY. They DO NOT have the right to do the same with someone else's body growing inside her.

When a woman has intimate relations she is CHOSING the possibility of having a new life growing inside her. (I am NOT talking about rape, abuse, incest, etc.)

When a woman is pregnant, she is the incubator or the housing for that new life growing inside her. It is her RESPONSIBILITY to be the caretaker for that life. As such, she needs to protect the environment (her body) by good nourishment (no drugs, alcohol, etc) and a healthy lifestyle. She does NOT have the right to "clean up her mistakes" by sweeping the womb clean. Only God has that right.

To all of you staunch supporters of abortion & pro-choice: It's too bad your own mothers weren't so adamant about sucking the new, growing life out of their bodies. Too bad YOUR OWN MOTHERS weren't so hell-bent on MURDERING INNOCENT BABIES. "

to Laura wrote on Nov 14, 2008 1:46 PM:

" The half of America paying attention are very scared Obama won the election because they know his socialist policies have no chance to help the country. The fact that he will be the new President makes the problems we face today worse. We will all have to work together to prevent the mess Obama will cause, that has been created by Democrats.

Similarly, if McCain had been elected, innocent children might have had a chance to live. And babies born alive might get medical care. So, a single party is to blame for the problems of millions of people. We all need to work together to stop Obama.

It is black and white for the innocent boys and girls in the womb. They want to live. Obama says no. "

Dear God wrote on Nov 14, 2008 1:32 PM:

" Please save me from your followers "

Laura wrote on Nov 14, 2008 1:23 PM:

" The majority of people who voted are very happy Obama won the election because they feel we have the best chance at becoming a better country with him as our leader. However, the fact that he will be the new President does not solve the problems we face today. We will all have to work together to fix the mess that has been created. Similarly, if McCain had been elected, yes, Roe v. Wade would likely have been overturned. However, that fact would also NOT have stopped the problem. People have to stop thinking that a single act is the answer to all of life's problems. It is the little things each of us do every day that make the difference. So, stop focusing your time and effort on the big picture and get involved to actually stop the problem from happening in the first place. And, please, stop blaming a single party for the actions of millions of people. We all need to work together to solve any problem. It is not as black and white as so many of you voicing your opinions think. "

to 68 Mo Days til downgrade wrote on Nov 14, 2008 1:01 PM:

" Bush won Florida, per the recount done by the New York Times and 15 other media sources. He won any way they counted the ballots. But the myth continues in spite of the facts.

Bush's eight years did bode well for the economy, education, our health, foreign policy, social security, the environment, civil rights, human rights, New Orleans, Iraq, Darfur, Sudan, Don Rumsfeld and our future. Seems we are getting an inexperienced socialist in office, that is the problem.

After the bursting of the tech bubble and the 9/11 attacks, George Bush lowered tax rates across-the-board for individuals and investors. For five years the stock market rallied without interruption — the longest bull market without a correction in post-WWII history — while the economy expanded for six years, a bit longer than the average post-war recovery cycle.

Recently we have seen trouble in the financial markets and the economy due to liberals forcing bank to give loans to people who can't pay them. Obama will bring us deeper into a recession, if not a depression if he follows his socialist ways. "

Re You cant be... wrote on Nov 14, 2008 12:23 PM:

" Sure you can. 3 entirely different subjects, only 1 involves unborn children without a voice. And just for argument's sake, is anyone really pro-war? Or do some feel war is a necessary evil in an imperfect world? "

To Relieved wrote on Nov 14, 2008 11:06 AM:

" Whew....Lets All Breathe a Sigh of Relief That Woman Still Have The Right To Kill Unborn Children!!!!! How Horrible This World Would Be If They Took That Right Away.....Sad That That is The Only Right Women Feel is Worth Fighting For..... "

68 Mo Days wrote on Nov 14, 2008 10:39 AM:

" Bush's rigged election and ensuing eight years didn't bode well for the economy, education, our health, foreign policy, social security, the environment, civil rights, human rights, New Orleans, Iraq, Darfur, Sudan, Don Rumsfeld and our future. Seems we are getting an upgrade, where is the problem? "

relieved wrote on Nov 14, 2008 10:18 AM:

" I was so stressed for women, in general, during the campaign as I knew that if McCain won this election, our rights would be taken away with the appointment of Supreme Court justices during his tenure as President. Thankfully, God has seen to it that our rights will remain in place and our right-to-choose will be safe. Millions of children will avoid a fate of being unwanted, unloved, and abandoned by mothers and fathers than didn't want them. I'm not "pro-abortion", but I AM pro-choice. "

Darien wrote on Nov 14, 2008 10:14 AM:

" “Obama has a plan that involves socialism and taking from successful people and giving free health care to others.”

What do you mean by this? You are against killing unborn babies, but you are not for saving someone’ life by giving them medical care? There is something fundamentally wrong with this philosophy.
Yes, health care is available, but if you don’t have some sort of medical insurance, you can be denied treatment. It has nothing to do with taking from the rich and giving to the poor. As a Christian, I believe that this nation – the most progressive, humanitarian in the world, does not offer some type of health care assistance to those who need it.
How many of these kids will grow up in poverty and abuse? How many will turn out to be abusers and even murderers?
Although I do not necessarily agree with abortion, I disagree with the do-gooders who try to impose their will on others, yet are against helping the really needy? Why not ban alcohol; how many lives does drunkenness take each year? Tobacco products? Illegal drugs? Over-eating?
BTW, how will you help? "

Pray for what wrote on Nov 14, 2008 10:04 AM:

" So, if one Christian prays really really sincerely to God for the Bears to win on Sunday, and another prays really really sincerely for the Packers to win, what should God do? Seriously, people, if you cannot remove your religion from the equation you will NEVER be able to discuss the abortion issue on a legal basis. If it is murder, then it should be illegal. Right now, though, the United States Supreme Court has clearly stated that abortion is not murder, but is the rightful choice of a woman; therefore, it is legal. Supreme Court has clearly stated that abortion is not murder, but is the rightful choice of a woman; therefore, it is legal. "

You cant be... wrote on Nov 14, 2008 10:02 AM:

" Pro-life and pro-war. Or pro-capital punishment. "

ToJoe Average wrote on Nov 14, 2008 5:01 AM:

" Thank You for Your comment, Women should have no more right to murder than a gangmember or a cheating spouse. "

I remember wrote on Nov 13, 2008 9:35 PM:

" When I was around 19 years old, two friends of mine had gotten pregnant. The reaction of the families was as different as night and day. One girl's parents decided to rise to the occasion and help their baby with raising a baby.

The other friends family flat out rejected her, and told her to get an abortion and not shame the family name. Up to that point, I always thought her parents were cool, but I never thought of them the same since. Why kill a grandchild? "

john boy wrote on Nov 13, 2008 6:31 PM:

" They use the word murder for impact when all it does it make them look like fools because you can,t murder what never was alive.

Abortion is legal and it going to stay that way.

Nobody cares that you feel sorry for the fetus. "

Obama rally wrote on Nov 13, 2008 4:40 PM:

" When I was heading into the Obama rally the other day, there was a guy selling Obama tee shirts. He saw the people at the corner of Ridge and Indianapolis, telling Obama supporters about his record on abortion and asking people to reconsider and remember their values.

The tee-shirt guy saw them and started chanting "Free dead baby with every Obama tee shirt!, Free dead baby with every Obama tee shirt!"

Other Obama supporters started laughing and a few joined in the chant.

This is the Obama supporter. Callous to life, callous to the unborn, aggressive in their stance that more babies need to die, and if Barack Obama can get a lot of campaign cash from Planned Parenthood, so much the better. Then he can put in Supreme Court justices that will ensure more killing.

I turned around and went home crying for my country. That changed my vote...actually I did not vote because I did not want Obama's infanticide on my conscience. "

to blank wrote on Nov 13, 2008 4:28 PM:

" blank (no name) said "Why do so many people care what other people do with their life or their body? You don't have to live with the decision they make... they do."

In that case, why should we care if someone goes down the street and kills the clerk at the grocery store or the bank teller during a robbery? After all, the bank robber will have to live with the decision they make, not us.

So we should just sit back and take "bank robbery" and "killing clerks during robbery" laws off the books right? In fact maybe we could have a nice Supreme Court decision that says during certain trimesters, it's OK to kill certain store clerks as long as the killer does it with sterile instruments and the clerk would have caused him mental distress. "

to Darien wrote on Nov 13, 2008 4:24 PM:

" Darien asked, "Are you pro-life zealots ready to step up to the plate and financially support some of these kids?

Answer: yes, we are. Stop killing them.

How about health insurance?
Answer: yes, McCain had a good plan to get health insurance to all, using the market economy and freedom. Obama has a plan that involves socialism and taking from successful people and giving free health care to others.
Either way, health care is available. Is THAT your only excuse for killing baby boys and girls in the womb?

So no, they are not on their own once they pop out of the womb. We are hear to help them. Just stop killing them, they are innocent and never did anything to harm you. "

to GRBarkley wrote on Nov 13, 2008 4:12 PM:

" You are forgetting the fact that the baby in the womb (or the baby breathing outside the womb in Obama's case, BAIPA) is a separate human being than the mother.

So when you kill the baby with a beating heart in the womb, he or she feels pain and it is he or she who is killed, not the mother.

We need to think about the poor innocent babies, not the convenience of the mother and father. "

to God Introduces Legislation wrote on Nov 13, 2008 4:06 PM:

" You are right, the devil hopes all the zealots do stay home in their prayer circles. Then they'll leave the laws legalizing killing alone, and millions of babies can be killed without all the fuss and noise of people protesting about it.

Why can't we just have nice peace and quiet while we kill the babies? Why do you always have to try to make us feel bad about killing innocent babies? Just shut up and let us kill in peace and quiet. Thank you. "

to its not pro-life its pro-women-having-babies wrote on Nov 13, 2008 4:02 PM:

" Women are not under anyone's thumb, they are free to have s*x or not. If they create a new life, they don't have the right to end it.

Yes, liberals want pro-gay and pro-promiscuous s*x ed for our grade school kids, but that won't work.

There are plenty of adoption help centers around, and plenty of families that will take an unwanted child, there is no reason to kill her.

I am also against the radical Islamofacists killing of innocent people (both US Citizens and not) in the middle east. That is why we are fighting to stop them from killing any more innocent people. The terrorists killed 3000 innocent Americans on 9-11-01. They must be stopped before they launch another attack that would kill 30,000 or 300,000 next time.

I know the lefties are for weakness and appeasement, pacifism and surrender, but remember, PACIFISM IN THE FACE OF AGGRESSION IS SUICIDE! "

Duenwalker wrote on Nov 13, 2008 3:51 PM:

" If Richard Speck's mother had had an abortion, those eight student nurses would still be alive!

If John Gacy's mother had had an abortion...

See how sill the "what if's" are? "

to to Mike wrote on Nov 13, 2008 3:39 PM:

" I agree with you that it's up to God to determine who lives and dies. That is why I ask you to stop killing babies in the womb, or in Obama's case, letting them die after they are born.

I will join you in a prayer campaign, asking our Lord to please put an end to abortion, and stop the evil abortion supporters like Planned Parenthood who gave big bucks to Obama and Democrats to enact laws to protect their abortion profits.

I will also pray for an end to the murder and rape of innocent people, which deserves the death penalty.

I will also pray for an end to the inane Islamofacists and others who start wars throughout the world, where so many innocent babies die daily.

I pray that America's brave soldiers will stop these killers from killing any more of our innocent people. Just as I would pray for a policeman to stop the killing if a bank robber started shooting up innocent bank customers. I would not stand by and blame the cops and say "Gee, God, please stop these cops from killing the bad guys and also stop the robbers" "

to 50 million homeless kids better wrote on Nov 13, 2008 3:32 PM:

" The argument of the abortion-lovers that "well, we need to kill the babies because they might not be cared for quite right in life" doesn't hold water.

You say "Think about the children".
OK what about all the kids in orphanages then? There is a chance they might not have a perfect life right? So according to you, we should just off them all, just in case they might not have a great life.

This disrespect for life is just sick. "

Pro-life gram wrote on Nov 13, 2008 3:31 PM:

" Abortion will never go away because it is Big Bui$$ne$$!! If Planned Parenthood and other abortion providers were really so concerned about women's health and safety, abortions would be performed at no charge. The blood of our precious babies have lined the pockets of many with gold. God is not mocked, what you sow you will reap. May God have mercy on our country in spite of us. "

to Geezer wrote on Nov 13, 2008 3:29 PM:

" Geezer, it sounds like you think the amount of food we eat, or what kind of home we live in, or what health care we have or don't have is more important than protecting the life of a child.

If you could live in a slightly smaller home and save an innocent child's life, would you do it? Or are you selfish, "me first and screw the innocent kids! Let them die!"

Many lives are damaged by botched jobs when someone attacks their spouse with a knife, also. Many lives are damaged when someone tries to kill a bank teller to get money.

Does this mean we should make the killing of one's spouse, or armed bank robbery, legal?

Of course not. Killing innocent unborn children is wrong, just as wrong as any other murder. "

to Barnett Slepian MD wrote on Nov 13, 2008 3:24 PM:

" to Barnett Slepian MD, do you also agree with Obama's position, that termination of an unwanted live born baby girl or boy, who is breathing outside the womb, is a "woman's personal choice"?

Up to what age do you think we should allow mothers to kill their children? "

None of your business wrote on Nov 13, 2008 2:52 PM:

" Hello! Everyone who is trying to tell people what to do need to MYOB! It is not your choice or decision to make for another woman. Just like gay rights. Leave them alone! They are simply standing up for their own rights. A woman has one thing that will always belong to her and only her and that is her body. Maybe if people would stop trying to convert others and get off their high pedestals then they could see that they NEED TO MIND THEIR OWN BUSINESS!!! Here is the deal - if you accidentally get pregnant then you can decide for yourself whether to abort or carry to term. I will stay out of your decision and leave you alone. Sounds good! Now butt out and go pray to your god for forgiveness for judging other people! "

Because wrote on Nov 13, 2008 2:26 PM:

" Why do people care what other people do with their OWN bodies, because they can. They think if they stand on their soap boxes long enough and point their fingers of shame, every person in the country will some how start to think like them. When that doesn't work they protest, quote from the Bible and try to get our government to tell us what we can and can not do with OUR OWN BODIES. "

To First Amendment wrote on Nov 13, 2008 1:57 PM:

" It's not a question of religion it's a question of decency, the respect for human life. I don't care either what "your science" says, I know for a fact, cuz believe it or not I was actually there ha, that I heard my baby's heart beat at 3 weeks.....sounds alive and conscious to me!!! "

dk wrote on Nov 13, 2008 1:50 PM:

" 2 years ago I had an ectopic pregnancy and had to undergo surgrey to save my life. It still saddens me to this day at times and I am happily now nine months pregnant. I didn't have a choice and it makes me sad that people would choose to abort a baby. I also have a friend that is trying to adopt and she has been trying for 3 years and with the stipulations these mothers put on adpotive parents like pay my cable bill or lawyers charge $100 for paper work is just sad. I agree that women do have the right to choose. Choose not to get pregnant and how they do that IS their choice. If you don't want to be judged about your decision then don't announce them. In the long run aren't you just judging others for their views as much as they might be judging you? "

First Amendment wrote on Nov 13, 2008 1:07 PM:

" "Congress shall pass no law respecting an establishment of religion" means no law forcing the belief held by SOME Christian denominations (a belief contrary to scientific facts) that a fetus is a conscious human being. You have a right not to believe abortion is right, but you have no right forcing your belief on other families. "

kathy wrote on Nov 13, 2008 11:56 AM:

" what people do does make a difference to each other . were all in this together when somone suffers unborn or a mother the world feels there pain. now and then and forever. "

wrote on Nov 13, 2008 11:38 AM:

" Why do so many people care what other people do with their life or their body? You don't have to live with the decision they make... they do. "

To Pro-Choice wrote on Nov 13, 2008 10:51 AM:

" Have these "mothers" ever heard of BIRTH CONTROL??? or how about ABSTINENCE??? Abortion is NOT a form of birth control it is murder of an innocent child, You Know when I was pregnant with my son, I heard his heart beat after only a few weeks??? They're not just cells.....If these girls/women want abortions then fine, but then in the process they should also have to get their tubes tied or something so they can never make that "mistake" again.....we're talking about human lives here...Tell me how come if a man, or woman, kills a woman and her unborn child he is charged with 2 murders, but when a woman murders her own unborn child it's ok? Does this make any sense? "

Lorie wrote on Nov 13, 2008 8:47 AM:

" We can't spank our children, but we can leave them lay on a table to die!

This world is messed up! "

To taxpayer wrote on Nov 13, 2008 8:23 AM:

" I just had to comment that there ARE women being basically paid to have baby after baby after baby. It's called welfare. I'm not saying these women should have aborted. I don't ever see that as being the answer. But many of these "women" (so many are really just girls..) have no clue. They think the government will just take care of everything. So in a sense, YES they are getting paid to procreate.
Not disagreeing with your post... "

Darien wrote on Nov 13, 2008 8:18 AM:

" Are you pro-life zealots ready to step up to the plate and financially support some of these kids?
How about health insurance?
I guess they are on their own once they pop out of the womb. "

Hope Re Pro-life wrote on Nov 13, 2008 7:31 AM:

" My hope is that people will acknowledge that an implanted embryo has the same right to life as any other human, because without foreign interruption, that embryo will become a living breathing human and at 9-10 weeks gestation (7-8 weeks from conception), it will have a heartbeat. If pro-life is so sure that she would abort the baby if she became pregnant, why hasn't she undergone tubal ligation or had her partner undergo a vasectomy? I mean if you are that sure that you would undergo a medical procedure to get rid of the baby, why wouldn't you undergo a medical procedure so you don't create the baby? "

Freedom of Speech wrote on Nov 13, 2008 6:56 AM:

" DR. Slepian- talk about the 'hypocritical oath"...and you have the nerve to call yourself a doctor! Which year in med school did your class practice abortions? And TAXPAYER, guess what, we are already forking over monies to women having babies; ever heard of "welfare?" I'm pro life. Unfortunately, now days abortions and divorce are treated way too cavalierly. To lower the divorce rate, put more effort into your relationship before marriage. It's the sanctity of marriage that makes it so special, unlike, arbitrarily changing jobs. If a 'couple' doesn't disire a child, then practice abstinence or prevention. "

More to it wrote on Nov 13, 2008 5:01 AM:

" To begin with, "Dr." Slepian, you cannot even spell. It's BaracK Obama, not with an "h." Secondly, abortion is bigger than dealing with an irresponsible woman who uses abortion as a method of birth control. SHE has to live with the consequences of (1) Possibly never being able to conceive when she CHOOSES to FINALLY be a parent; (2) The lingering thoughts that may haunt her when her due date comes every year and she ponders what great achievements her child may have accomplished; (3) Having to answer to her God, regardless of which affiliation she advocates.

I just don't understand why her "Choice" doesn't lie with CHOOSING whether or not to have intimate relations which can lead to pregnancy in the first place, RATHER than her CHOICE of when to abort.

Finally, for those of you who are still under the impression that a fetus is not a life, then I ask you, "What is it?" It is the early stages that lead to a CHILD. A Baby. A Person. I don't know how much more REAL that can be. "

Pro-life wrote on Nov 13, 2008 4:24 AM:

" As a woman still at child bearing age I am happy to have a choice should an unplanned pregnancy happen. I take precautions because I do not want children and if an accident should happen I have a choice. I do not feel guilty to say I would have an abortion and it is no one's decision but my own. Someone who I have never met o rwill meet has no right to say what I can do to my own body. And an embryo is not a child. It is a lump of parasitic cells growing in a uterus can be compared to cancer for a woman that does not want to be pregnant. All of those opposed to abortion should be the first ones to adopt all of these unwanted kids. If you aren't going to adopt or support them then keep your mouths shut. Tax dollars should not have to pay for these kids to be dumped or neglected or abused or on welfare. "

Proper respect wrote on Nov 12, 2008 10:41 PM:

" Gee, Mike, I know what you mean. People everywhere call the Flying Spaghetti Monster "it," they eat Pasta without the proper rituals and implements, they abuse the Sabbath (Wednesday) and they almost never capitalize Spaghetti....what should we Pastafarians do? "

by that logic wrote on Nov 12, 2008 10:33 PM:

" " I ask Dr Slepian to come to our church & talk to the Lord & ask him if aborting human life is right. If Mrs King had an abortion then there would be no Dr Martin Luther King! If Mrs Obama had an abortion then there would no Obama!... "

And if Mrs. Hitler had had an abortion... "

Paul wrote on Nov 12, 2008 8:41 PM:

" Right on, Rev. Washington, Right on! Of the 50 million children aborted since Roe vs. Wade, how do we know the person to cure cancer or AIDS wasn't aborted?
God has a purpose for everyone, even the un-wanted.

It's all about perspective. ProLifers see babies as potential for greatness, where as Choicers see babies as a drain. "

Respect wrote on Nov 12, 2008 7:43 PM:

" Respect is something that must be earned - your little god has most definitely NOT earned mine. Sorry. "

Re GRBarkley wrote on Nov 12, 2008 6:13 PM:

" There are definitely too many pregnancies coming into existance and women aren't doing it all alone.
Castration? I don't think so. But men have to admit they are creating this problem and they need to take action to reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies. It is entirely within their power to do it. "

mike wrote on Nov 12, 2008 5:55 PM:

" MHO says that we should emulate Mother Teresa,and just be quiet. Why don't you just be quiet MHO. You say pray in silence and let your god do it's job. That is God with a capital G not a small g. So,let's show the proper respect will you? And remember when writing the word God or any proper name that you always use capital letters at all times. Never use small letters when writing Gods name. That is very disrespectful. You quote mother Teresa by saying:You need no words from me to see how Roe vs.Wade has deformed a nation. How dare you quote those words? You are desecrating the good name of Mother Teresa,by doing so. It's all powerful and doesn't need your help. You do not refer to God as it. You are blaspheming Gods name by doing so. So,don't tell us about right or wrong when you yourself are making disparaging remarks about Gods name. "

Mike wrote on Nov 12, 2008 5:33 PM:

" Let god decide is way off the beaten track. And that's God with a capital G not a small g. So,show some respect will you? You say to remove the unwanted fetus from your womb and let your God decide wheather it lives or dies? It's not just My God it's your God and everyone elses God as well. You need to show more reverance for God. And if you don't want your unwanted child you could always put it up for adoption. There are other viable solutions to the problem as opposed to abortion. And killing an unborn child doesn,t happen to be one of them. "

GRBarkley wrote on Nov 12, 2008 5:20 PM:

" How about manditory castration for any man that fathers a baby and does not take care of the woman and baby. If the woman choses an abortion, no matter, the man is castrated. It was his chose to sleep with her, without knowing her views. He is part of this creation. Want abortions to stop, castrate the guy after one child that is uncared for. That will stop it overnight. Why is it always the woman's fault. Let's also legislate the man's body. One unwanted child, one unwanted castration. "

Donnie wrote on Nov 12, 2008 2:13 PM:

" During the Holocaust the nazis not only made God's chosen into soap & lampshades bus also performrd illegal abortions on Jewish people, some in their teens. Abortion is wrong when the nazis did it or if it's done now a days in a clinic. "

mike wrote on Nov 12, 2008 2:07 PM:

" I totally disagree with God Introduces Legislation. And No,we will not remain in our prayer circles and leave the laws alone so that women could have a choice. That child has a right to live. And we shall not deny them those rights are so deservingly afforded to them. We shall not play God and terminate every human life conceivable to mankind. We are not the judge,jury or executioner. If a child has a physical or mental disability we don't have any right to write them off either. We must love them and accept them for who they are. We have some sick and depraved people living in this nation. And we need to start praying for their recovery. "

Let god decide wrote on Nov 12, 2008 1:59 PM:

" Remove the unwanted fetus from my womb and then your god(s) can decide if it lives or dies. "

Josh a 7th grader wrote on Nov 12, 2008 1:37 PM:

" Reverend Washington is right. Just think if everybody had abortions there would a lack of great men and women worldwide. The men and women who made Africa a better place such as Nelson Mendela and Robert Mugaba would not be standing with us today if their loving moms had abortions. "

Dr Kavokian wrote on Nov 12, 2008 1:17 PM:

" Old people are a drain on society. Their own children refuse to care for them and nobody wants to adopt them. Perhaps we should ABORT all of those “unwanted” old people! We can get 50 million easy through AARP. We'll call it pro-choice for the children who cannot be burdened with the care of their parents. We can even use the same procedure that is used in partial birth abortions - just stick a pair of scissors into the base of the skull and suck their brains out. Sounds humane to me!! "

Re its not pro life wrote on Nov 12, 2008 1:00 PM:

" I am against abortion as a form of birth control, and even though I have a belief in a higher power, my problem with abortion is scientific and based on the founding documents of this nation. An implanted embryo will, uninterrupted, develop into a human being. To interrupt that process is to interfer with that embryo's right to life. Women who want to demand their rights to their own bodies should demand the right to practice abstinence or access to birth control so that their body does not become the host for an unwanted life in the first place. If you don't want to get pregnant, don't get pregnant. Right now too many women are not wanting to have the baby instead of not wanting to get pregnant. There is a difference. And it has nothing to do with wanting women barefoot and pregnant. Today's woman has all the control she needs over that without abortion. We have come that far. "

Rev. Cleophus Washington wrote on Nov 12, 2008 12:58 PM:

" I ask Dr Slepian to come to our church & talk to the Lord & ask him if aborting human life is right. If Mrs King had an abortion then there would be no Dr Martin Luther King! If Mrs Obama had an abortion then there would no Obama! If Mrs Smith had an abortion then there would be no great actor Will Smith. If the mother of one of the three civil rights workers in the 1960's had an abortion then there would be only two civil rights workers. I could go on but you all get the idea. "

God Introduces Legislation wrote on Nov 12, 2008 12:41 PM:

" I hope all the zealots do stay home in their prayer circles. Then they'll leave the laws alone, and millions of women will have a choice. "

Joe Average wrote on Nov 12, 2008 12:41 PM:

" First of all, referring to G_d as "it" is rude and inappropriate. In our PC world, if you don't like referring to G_d as "Him" or "He", that's totally cool with me. Call G_d G_d for G_d's sake. You don't even have to say G_d is your G_d, just don't be rude about it.
Is it easier to accept the brutality of abortion by referring to a baby in development as a fetus instead of a baby?
What have we come to with our bloodlust that we allow parrtial birth abortion? What sadistic animal would even conceive of such a thing much less do it? We're sick.
There would not be 50 million abortions or unwanted BABIES if people didn't treat reproduction so cavalierly. There is only one cause for pregrancy and 99.999% of the time it can be avoided by thinking of something or someone other than yourself. For the other .001% there have been mornng after pills issues by doctors in ER's following treatment for rape.
Why doens't anyone ever hold themselves or others accountable for their actions any more?
We're all a bunch of selfish narcisists. "

its not pro-life its pro-women-having-babies wrote on Nov 12, 2008 12:33 PM:

" The 'pro-life' argument isn't about life at all tt's about keeping women under your thumb, barefoot and pregnant. If 'pro-life' were really about promoting life, then they would also advocate for comprehensive s*x-education in the classroom so kids know what to do and they don't get pregnant and need an abortion. It would advoate for government support of all babies once they are born so that they don't end up neglected on the street. As someone else said, 'pro-lifers' should also be advocating for easing of adoption restrictions - people should not have to wait 4 YEARS to get a US baby - most will just go overseas instead. It is absured that you have all these unwanted babies languishing in foster-care while there are willing parents available.

Also, how many of you pro-lifers also support the killing of innocent people (both US Citizens and not) in the middle east? Further proof that all you really care about is keeping the women oppressed. "

to Mike wrote on Nov 12, 2008 12:11 PM:

" I agree with you that it's up to God to determine who lives and dies. And that is why I ask you and the other readers to join me in a prayer campaign, asking our Lord to please put an end to abortion. Please also pray for an end to the death penalty and an end to the inane wars throughout the world, where so many innocent babies die daily. Pray hard and put your trust in the Lord our God -- he will provide the solution. "

mike wrote on Nov 12, 2008 9:53 AM:

" I disagree with Dr.Slepian,entirely. The termination of an unwanted fetus is not a woman's personal choice. It's up to God to determine who lives or dies,not us. It's not up to us to make that distinction or determination. That baby is not some slice of meat that you just cut up and throw away. That child is a dignified human being and should be treated as such. That baby has a right to live,breathe and sustain it's being. That woman's body is a temple of the Holy Spirit. And it must be respected at all times. Life begins at the moment of conception. Since the first century the Church has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion. This teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable. Direct abortion,that is to say,abortion willed as either an end or a means is gravely contrary to the moral law. I strongly suggest that Dr.Slepian,go to church this Sunday and examine his conscience. "

50 million homeless kids better wrote on Nov 12, 2008 9:20 AM:

" These kids are aborted because the mother doesn't want them. Would you rather have 50 million kids in dumpsters? Would you rather have 50 million kids *not* being adopted because America makes it so difficult that parents like (McCain) go overseas to get babies? Would you rather have 50 million permanently disabled, unloved children floating around?

Think about the children. There is no way they could all be loved and cared for. The mothers will just punch themselves or use a coathanger, so then you'll have *two* deaths over *your* head. "

Geezer wrote on Nov 12, 2008 9:13 AM:

" Yea, people are starving losing their homes, can't afford health cars and you bring up abortion.
Apparently you aren't old enough to remember when it was thought illegal.
How many females were damaged for life because of a botched job.
If you know someone who is planning an abortion counsel them and offer to adopt their unwanted child. "

A personal choice wrote on Nov 12, 2008 8:41 AM:

" And making it felony to have an abortion will not stop them from happening. They will only go "under ground" again. "

david wrote on Nov 12, 2008 8:36 AM:

" i disagree with abortion in general, but it would not make me vote for somebody who opposed abortion but who i also disagreed with on everything else. i think the main thing that everyone can agree on is that abortion is undesirable, and that we should do everything we can to reduce the number of them, with the main goal of eliminating them entirely. this includes talking about birth control in high school (instead of talking only about abstinence, which is turning a blind eye to the situation), free clinics where people can get condoms and birth control, increased adoption efforts, more support for low income mothers who might be tempted to have an abortion for financial reasons, and eliminating the death penalty, which just completely makes "pro-lifers" who support it seem hypocritical and diminishes their credibility. "

MHO wrote on Nov 12, 2008 8:24 AM:

" To quote Mother Teresa: "America needs no words from me to see how your decision in Roe v. Wade has deformed a great nation."

Wouldn't it be great if more people could emulate Mother Teresa and just be quiet. Pray in silence and let your god worry about abortion. After all, It is all powerful and doesn't need your help, so just be quiet and let It do It's job. "

voter wrote on Nov 12, 2008 7:49 AM:

" What was sort of refreshing about this election was that I didn't have to listen to the endless debate about abortion how the candidates would be lambasted for taking whichever position on it by the other side. Obama's race and Palin's candidicy were center stage. No videos of the Pro Choicers and Pro Lifers screaming at one another on lthe news. I'm pro life and pro choice. "

TAX PAYER wrote on Nov 12, 2008 7:38 AM:

" Perhaps there are more effective ways of reducing the number of abortions than by making it a felony criminal offense. I would recommend putting your efforts in some other direction. Let me make an outlandish proposal. If women were paid $20,000 for every child born, I would bet that the level of abortions would drop very low. Pay them $100,000 and it would go lower. We're probably not going to do this because of some other unintended consequenses but this takes much less effort than trying to change the make up of the Supreme Court. "

Intelligent Thinking Woman wrote on Nov 12, 2008 6:20 AM:

" Thanks Paul for getting those facts out there. We live in a GREAT COUNTRY, but abortion and those who support it are betraying future generations. For what?
There are of course, unwanted pregnancies, but murder is never the answer. "

Barnett Slepian MD wrote on Nov 12, 2008 5:49 AM:

" Our new Commander-in-Chief President Barach Obama is correct, termination of an unwanted fetus is a woman's personal choice. "

Eric Ruldolph wrote on Nov 12, 2008 5:36 AM:

" Even though in my situation i can't vote, that's why if i could, i would of voted for John McCain, because of Obama's position on abortion. "

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