The debate never stops. Pro-sanction people are saying the latest round of U.S. sanctions against North Korea may indeed bring enough pressure on Kim Jong-un to talk about giving up his nukes and missiles. The anti-sanctionists say sanctions never work, and now they say Kim may be tempted to test still more missiles and nukes just to prove what a great and independent leader he is.

We’re never going to hear the end of this debate. Nor will we ever get any definitive answers. Who will know for sure if he orders another test of a long-range missile capable of carrying a warhead to the United States that he would or would not have done so with or without the sanctions?

It’s all a guessing game in which President Donald Trump’s decision to restore North Korea to its rightful place on the State Department’s list of “sponsors of terror” adds colorful quotes to the argument. If nothing else, by bestowing this label on North Korea, Trump scores rhetorical or propaganda points. Proponents of a strong U.S. policy think he has done what’s needed to bring Kim to his senses.

After briefly making headlines in the United States, however, these gestures do not appear to have advanced the story a great deal. Certainly a few more Chinese companies may be constrained from doing business with North Korea, and certainly North Korean leaders do not like the “terror” label now anymore than they did in 2008 when George W. Bush, then the U.S. president, ordered removal of the North from the list.

Bush was persuaded by Condoleezza Rice, then secretary of state, that removal of the North from the list would provide the North with enough face and respect to abide by agreements hammered out by Christopher Hill in six-party talks to give up its nuclear program on a carefully devised timetable.

Hill also got the U.S. Treasury Department to remove constraints that had forced Banco Delta Asia in Macao to freeze a few tens of millions of dollars in North Korean accounts.

Anyone could have seen that Hill, looking for a place in history as the diplomat who had gotten the North to give up its nuclear ambitions, was more or less out of his mind. What made him imagine that Kim Jong-il, the father of Kim Jong-un, would ever abide by such a deal?

Hill these days is saying North Korean negotiators lied to him, broke their promises and were otherwise quite deceptive.

In the meantime, Banco Delta Asia had gone on serving as a conduit for distributing counterfeit North Korean $100 bills while North Korea’s Bureau 39 deposited profits from sales of weapons, narcotics, even cigarettes with phony foreign labels on them.

North Korea should have remained in its place of honor on the “terror” list along with Syria, Iran and Sudan.

Where does Trump go from here? What if Kim Jong-un really does order another test of a long-range missile? Then what?

It’s often said Trump is really tough — that he’s capable of some wild act, a “pre-emptive strike,” that might precipitate counter-attacks on South Korea’s populated, industrial regions.

It’s the fear of such a reaction from the North that inhibits South Korean President Moon Jae-in from going along with U.S. hints of a “military option” if diplomacy fails.

It probably would be extremely risky to predict the next act in the great Korean drama. We have so often been surprised in the past. Let us hope intensified pressure does have a certain effect.

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Donald Kirk has been a columnist for Korea Times, South China Morning Post many other newspaper and magazines. He wrote this for The opinions are the writer's.