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  1. Give me a study where you pulled the numbers and I will read it. Some do use behavior analysis - however the COST is higher! Again people are not willing to pay it. Behavior analysis requires intense individualization of curriculum and one on one time to each child - special ed right now is focused on inclusion. Inclusion done right even requires more cost - but it has been touted and structured as a way to save money and they just throw more children in a class room with less support.
    Back to what my comment focused on - the smokescreen of funding education - the need to cut while proposing to fund teacher merit pay and bonuses to successful schools AND passing this off as education reform. The politician promise to save the taxpayer money by reducing funding and still promise a better education by giving money/bonuses to "good teachers and schools" seems like they are talking out of both sides of their mouth - circular to nowhere. I'll just cut and paste here my last line from my initial comment as to what also needs to be seriously addressed in our education reform
    "Let's deal with giving families support, deal with poverty and the issues it raises, being aware of development, and looking at all of cumulative research on how the brain learns to improve our education."
    Our state does not have a good record within these areas - Child Protective Services, family service/ foster families, special education, services for adults with special needs - along with education - have all been pushed aside.
    July 06, 2012 10:34 pm on EDITORIAL: Reward top-performing school districts
  2. That "accidentally" placed money - where was its intended purpose in the first place - what part of the budget was it intended for? How can it just be placed in the reserve fund? They had reported earlier that it was some kind of business tax that it came from - so what is that money allocated to go for? Which area was cut because they thought there wasn't enough revenue while the money sat in that account? And why are others not thinking about this? Why does our governor act like the state found $20 in the parking lot?
    July 06, 2012 10:09 pm on Indiana's $2 billion in reserve triggers taxpayer refund topping $100
  3. You can adjust those figures to 2008, but the same applies to a loaf of bread, a gallon of gas, etc. There is very little ( if anything?) that costs the same as it did in 1960 and we expect to pay less? Our expectations as to what we expect for our kids to learn is more as well as our expectation to have to pay less ( in taxes and costs).
    Again - my question has to deal with where do they propose the money will COME from for these top performing schools? Where will the money come from to pay the merit pay for the "good teachers"? How can they promise this when they cut funding for schools? They keep saying THIS incentive pay is a way to reform our education system, but then they say we don't have the money to spend NOW. Let's look at arguments that they keep throwing at us to bolster the cause of reform and it all goes back to privatization and making money for those private corporations. Corporations do not even run the way that our great reformers in the state say they work as far as paying bonuses to the low rung of their company. The point basically is that they are trying to sell us these wonderful merit pay/bonus ideas as true reform and they are not focusing on education, our children, or our families. They are selling us out.
    July 05, 2012 11:24 pm on EDITORIAL: Reward top-performing school districts
  4. To interesting observer: being one of the previous four ( actual 2 since I accidentally posted 2x)
    there was nothing mentioned in my comment about only basing funding on free/reduced lunches. Funding presently is not based ONLY on that any way. My comment was to try to bring to light that all of this FUNDING for the "good" educators based on performance is really a smoke screen. My question - again - is where do we get this supposed bonus for the succeeding schools? Our governor cut funding drastically to education while our State Superintendent stood by without a peep. Our money for education now has more hands in the pot to be split up between public and charters - charters which more and more are being owned by private corporations/management companies. Yes our better performing schools should be getting some of the goodies, yes our struggling schools should be supported and those root causes - Look above, not going to list them again - need to be addressed. Our politicians are preaching a bunch of baloney, pretending that poverty, family dysfunction, and economic status does not affect education. They tell us not to just throw money at the problem and then promise "we will give you money if you just do better!" We were just told we don't have any money ( It was "accidentally" put in the wrong account and just left to sit there!")
    July 05, 2012 9:39 am on EDITORIAL: Reward top-performing school districts
  5. You don't need to hire family - all you need to do is appoint people who have donated to you and who are big business cronies and then THEY will vote you into YOUR next job. (Hint: Maybe at an institution of higher learning?) While I know nepotism does run rampant in many instances, it just seems a little ironic that downstate is acting like Northwest Indiana is such a bad little political corner in the state while they run their own little dirt deals down there. They are just looking for someone to shout out against to divert attention away from themselves.
    July 05, 2012 8:43 am on EDITORIAL: Indiana law makes towns cry 'Uncle'
  6. SO where should the money come from since Indiana CUT the education budget because apparently we do not have the money? One thing that should be known about teacher based performance pay is that a lot of districts received grants to temporarily FUND that performance pay - after the grant runs out it will be the district's responsibility to fund the bonus pay - how will they fund that? If they can't find the funds they will be treated JUST like professionals in the business world - sorry we didn't make the money/we don't have it - no bonus! In the "business world" the front end/customer facing employee - which in education would be the teachers - is the lowest paid, their bonuses are miniscule compared to the overall business chain and their salaries or bonuses are the first cut or dropped if the "profit" is not made. So, is that where we put teachers in the business view of education? Like a retail employee? As more schools strive to get that bonus pay and we have more districts than just 15 clamoring for funds - there will be less to go around. What is the business model's solution? Change the formula for qualifying for the bonuses! Businesses change the requirements for qualifying for the bonus ALL the time. They change the formula for raises ALL the time. Let's stop pretending that this "business" model for education is going to save us -it is a bunch of claptrap to privatize our schools and make money off of our kids. Let's reform and make education better by using some common sense and seeing education for the value it is. Let's deal with giving families support, deal with poverty and the issues it raises, being aware of development, and looking at all of cumulative research on how the brain learns to improve our education.
    June 29, 2012 10:35 am on EDITORIAL: Reward top-performing school districts
  7. SO where should the money come from since Indiana CUT the education budget because apparently we do not have the money? One thing that should be known about teacher based performance pay is that a lot of districts received grants to temporarily FUND that performance pay - after the grant runs out it will be the district's responsibility to fund the bonus pay - how will they fund that? If they can't find the funds they will be treated JUST like professionals in the business world - sorry we didn't make the money/we don't have it - no bonus! In the "business world" the front end/customer facing employee - which in education would be the teachers - is the lowest paid, their bonuses are miniscule compared to the overall business chain and their salaries or bonuses are the first cut or dropped if the "profit" is not made. So, is that where we put teachers in the business view of education? Like a retail employee? As more schools strive to get that bonus pay and we have more districts than just 15 clamoring for funds - there will be less to go around. What is the business model's solution? Change the formula for qualifying for the bonuses! Businesses change the requirements for qualifying for the bonus ALL the time. They change the formula for raises ALL the time. Let's stop pretending that this "business" model for education is going to save us -it is a bunch of claptrap to privatize our schools and make money off of our kids. Let's reform and make education better by using some common sense and seeing education for the value it is. Let's deal with giving families support, deal with poverty and the issues it raises, being aware of development, and looking at all of cumulative research on how the brain learns to improve our education.
    June 29, 2012 10:30 am on EDITORIAL: Reward top-performing school districts
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