1. Well said. Thank you for stateing what SHOULD be completely obvious. It's scary how many people are ready to dismiss this as a simple indiscretion. I think I'll be watching my daughters' associations a little more closely...
    September 27, 2012 12:35 pm on Hammond pastor pleads guilty in child sex case
  2. Bottom line, in a church setting, the technicalities of the law are beside the point. Arguments should be based solely on moral and biblical standards. And we know where that argument ends. Well, at least those of us who aren't FBC'ers know. ( I know, I have held him accountable; then you proceed to DEFEND him with the "he's just a sinner like you and me" yada yada.) IN ADDITION to being scrutinized by the church, he is also under obligation to the laws of our government. He's guilty in that arena as well. My point is, I find it odd and disturbing that FBCer's are making their arguments based on the technicalities of the law rather than the standard they hold everyone else to from their bully pulpit. All of the sudden, his guilt is based on legal technicalities rather than his moral failure. Strange. My point? Keep the arguments separate...they're separate arguments indeed.
    September 27, 2012 10:21 am on Hammond pastor pleads guilty in child sex case
  3. I'm familiar with the accounts in scripture you're refering to. To compare them to a 54 year-old pastor taking advantage of a 16 year-old by abusing his position as pastor & counselor in order to gratify his own sexual desires is twisting the intended message of these texts in a sick way, quite typical of the FBC mindset. And you ARE an FBC member, "Razethestandard"? You give yourself away by your defense of him...and you ARE defending him in your implication of this 16 year-old girl, calling her an adulter. I get you. I grew up in that place, so I recognize your rhetoric. And your sarcasm. C2020, the athiest, has a firmer grip on the Biblical perspective in this than you do, sir. May I quote Jesus on this topic? "It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones." I have a 16 year-old daughter. She is a child. Period. The thought of a 54-year old man taking advantage of her nievity is sickening. The thought that you seem to think otherwise, sir, is disturbing. Please stay away from our daughters. The indictment of the entire church membership is more than fair. It's necessary. They've sat by for years and looked the other way while abuse after abuse against women and children has occured with frightening regularity. If only it were "the actions of a few", as you say. Many have tried to warn them. This, sir, is why people are so outraged. This is why this absolutely will not go away, as much as you want it to. Your pious, self-righteous church has given a black eye to the cause of Christ. Yet again. And to "patrea" and even to "C2020"...please take some time to read Peter's second letter to the church...the second chapter. It describes FBC "to a T". Come to find out, God Himself seems to feel as we do about people and institutions like this one. Imagine that. After having grown up in this "church", I can't begin tell you the freedom I found in the fact that scripture identified and scrutinized institutions like this one. The same Bible they beat me over the head with describes people just. like. them. To those who will finally pack up and leave the place, there REALLY IS life outside of FBC. There is Grace. To those who will contend to the very don't know what you're up against. It ain't pretty. Perhaps it's time to "examine the scriptures daily, to see if these things are true"...
    September 27, 2012 9:28 am on Hammond pastor pleads guilty in child sex case
  4. Humiliate their daughter? Their daughter would be APPLAUDED for her COURAGE in speaking out against this sexual predator.

    This may have been "handled" in typical FBC form, but now the law (and the media) is involved, a concept that FBCers better get a grasp on...a difficult concept, I know, since you've been programmed to believe you're exempt from anyone's law or critique except that of the Great Wizzard of FBC. Had you handled events over the last 30+ years BIBLICALLY, you wouldn't find yourselves in this position. But again, handleing things
    biblically is another concept difficult for FBCers to grasp...

    Be sure there's more sordid news to come.

    August 08, 2012 10:27 am on Did Hammond pastor take teen across state lines for sex?
  5. Another FBC attending, koolaid drinking simpleton trying to pose as an average level-headed citizen. Clever, you're not.
    August 07, 2012 8:56 pm on Did Hammond pastor take teen across state lines for sex?
  6. LOLOLOLOLOL!!!! I love it!!!!
    August 07, 2012 5:59 pm on Church spokesman says no charges expected against Schaap
  7. Yup.
    August 07, 2012 5:55 pm on Church spokesman says no charges expected against Schaap
  8. No, 6223japam isn't kidding you. 6223japam is a koolaid-drinking church member.
    August 07, 2012 5:47 pm on Church spokesman says no charges expected against Schaap
  9. So, let me get this straight...the people of the church are praying for the Schaap family? Really? Please tell me, what they meant to say is that they're praying for this girl and her family. If you have any additional information, you're to bring it forward to the church? Please tell me, what they meant to say was to bring that information to the POLICE. They're offering counseling to anyone who might need it? God help anyone who receives "counseling" from the "leadership" of that "church". Remember that he did good things for the community? Are you nuts? This is the mindset of the people of that church? "Tip of the iceberg" is spot on, Mr. Kaifetz. Pardon me, while I go vomit.
    August 03, 2012 3:43 pm on Hammond congregation accepts investigation with prayer, hurt
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