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Kyle Rittenhouse defense seeks to include testimony about 'cordial' interactions with police

Kyle Rittenhouse defense seeks to include testimony about 'cordial' interactions with police


Kyle Rittenhouse speaks with one of his attorneys, Natalie Wisco, during a motion hearing in Kenosha on Tuesday, Oct. 5. 

This is a developing story that will be updated. 

The defense in the Kyle Rittenhouse case hope to bring in testimony about their client’s interactions with police in the hours before he is alleged to have shot three people, saying those encounters shed light on whether Rittenhouse’s actions were reckless.

At a hearing Monday in Kenosha County Circuit Court, Rittenhouse’s attorneys addressed a state motion seeking to block testimony about those encounters. Defense attorney Corey Chirafisi said Rittenhouse’s encounters and conversations with police on the day of Aug. 25, 2020, are relevant to the charges against Rittenhouse, which include reckless homicide and recklessly endangering safety.

Among those encounters with police was one captured on video, with an anonymous police officer addressing Rittenhouse and others carrying AR-15 rifles at the Car Source car lot, the officer saying “we appreciate you guys, we really do.”

The defense also hopes to call as a witness a Kenosha Police officer who, the day of the shootings, recognized Rittenhouse from an earlier police call when Rittenhouse was in a fight, and had what Kenosha County Assistant District Attorney Tom Binger called a “cordial” interaction.

Assistant District Attorney Thomas Binger


Chirafisi said that Rittenhouse’s interactions with police earlier in the night are relevant because the jury instructions for the reckless charges ask the jury to consider whether his actions were reckless or not.

Prosecution objects

Binger wants to block the testimony about those police interactions.

“I appreciate attorney Chirafisi making explicit what I have long suspected, that this is going to be a trial over the Police Department’s activity that night,” Binger said. I think the defense argument here is pretty clear, they want to say that because police officers saw him and didn’t stop him, then somehow his actions are lawful.”

The prosecutor argued that interactions Rittenhouse had with police earlier in the night are not relevant to his actions later.

Rittenhouse is charged with first-degree attempted homicide, attempted first-degree attempted homicide and first degree reckless homicide for shooting three men, killing two: Anthony Huber of Silver Lake and Joseph Rosenbaum of Kenosha. Gaige Grosskreutz of West Allis was injured. Rittenhouse and his supporters have maintained he was acting in self defense.

Kenosha County Circuit Court Judge Bruce Schroeder said he would leave the door open to allow testimony about the police interactions. “It seems to me, my bias at this point, was toward allowing that evidence in,” Schroeder said, noting that he typically waits to make final decisions about what would be allowed until he sees evidence coming at trial.

At press time Monday, the hearing was ongoing, the focus on what expert testimony would be allowed at trial. This story will be updated. 

Rittenhouse is scheduled to go to trial Nov. 1.


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